my sideboard

yeah cause he also has:mutavault, and probably cryptic, garruk, ravager, and i know he has some pain and shock lands

I WANT THEM ALL!

i know, its like a closed bank of cards that pwn

no kidding

I agree just main a thought seize or so. You could buy a couple packs, if you get lucky then great if not, just run the crime. Control hates any discard even if they choose what to discard they need their entire hand most of the time. It will slow you down a little though so either do what you do then make them discard late or make them discard from the start and discard from there.

ya i donno that buying em is worth it

ok, but what to take out? the banneretts?

that i donno. u wanna post the list somewhere?

sure.
4 birds
4 harbinger
4 banneret
4 inversion
4 doran
3 infest
3 o ring
1 crib swap
4 leaf crowned
3 dauntless dourbark
2 chameleon
4 timber protector
and 22 land. need to take out a card or 2

Know that you probably want to play them early and they require black. I would take out whatever is unnecessary. You'll have the run of the board pretty much so think about that.

the problem is, early game i want birds and bannerets. late game i want none, but i always draw them

to stop 5 coler i sugest

-3infest
-1banneret
-1harbiger
-1 timber
+3gutaral
+3thought seiz

do they run instants that much? blue ones specifically?

yes guttural does wonders against it. the timber protector needs to stay, if i cant be wrathed, i will win regardless of the ultimatum resolving.i have extras gutturals if anyone needs them now.

o ok. i just didnt kno if it would help or not

yeah i just wish it could hit sorcereis too

not that many but you could take out protector for discard. You make them discard whatever could kill your stuff anyway and te deck remains its quickness.

ya discard wut kinda get rid of the need for protectors, he has a valid point

yeah

Thanx i appreciate the support. The key is to look outside the box of things you'd usually cut protecting the big picture. The discard does the protector's job and then some.

plus if ur not going against control then it hits other stuff that could be pesky

actually the protector I like in the mainboard.

yeah, i didnt like to much discard main, i dont need it against the decks the non control decks

I agree